Some of you who have taken on the ornery and obsessive csven concord yourself can appreciate what you are up against with this relentless tekkie mind. His occasional contributions of something useful "to the industry" or "the community" (as the elitists often describe themselves) can't be allowed to obscure his basic pernicious role in defending the destruction of free thinking. He does this *in the name of* free thinking so it because especially pernicious. If you need to brush up on some of the basic premises of a free society in which free thinking is possible go read even the Wikipedia entry on Karl Popper. This debate may seem sectarian, stupid, a flame fest, a troll-frest, but it's actually quite important. It seems to have "broken" the website Clickable Culture in that you can't even pull up the thread and read it through much less post it anymore. I'm not sure why that is -- Tony had written me earlier that it was a bug.
When you get a real harassing public menace like csven, it really pays to fight back hard, I find. Someone like me who is outspoken and disagrees with him openly of course will have to suffer the laser-like focus of his obsessive freak-outs, but it's actually educational. And when he begins to stoop to the level of sexual harassment, disclosure of real life, and really hardcore insult language, I think it's important to fight back and get people to condemn it. I don't wilt and declare blogging boycotts or refuse to answer posts like this, I fight back. If you find it obsessive and tiresome, don't bother to read after the fold. But I hope you will join me in thinking about how we will defend *the right to be wrong* and the right *to support even unsupportable hypotheses". Both of these are CRITICAL to independent thinking and keeping societies free on the Internet as in real life. It's impossible to have free debate if there are technically proficient actual makers of the Metaverse who tinker around in it who can get at the controls and then close off all criticism, debate, even modes of thinking by overwhelming force. csven rings all the chimes in the illegitimate tekkie methods, not only personal insult and the ubiquitous tekkie literalism, but insult culture -- calling me a worm, a liar, a wriggler, etc merely because I chose to debate him, and in doing so, I make errors -- errors that I invited him in fact to correct.
I'm calling this post as I am not only because of the literal breaking of this forum, but because I wish to really work hard to break the "clickable culture" owned by tekkies who think that being conversant in technology means they can force others to behave in a certain way.