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June 23, 2008

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Ann Otoole

I guess if you can't get a job anywhere else because you are basically unemployable for whatever reason then there is good money coming out of George Soros' pockets. I doubt a lot of these paid site operators really care who wins. They just write what they are told to write and they get paid for writing it. A job like any other.

Too bad the US citizens have devolved intellectually to the point the gobble up whatever they want to hear. Oh wait.. it has always been like that. It is simply more profitable now that the population density has increased.

Don't cross the DNC. They will come after you and hurt you in many ways.

Prokofy Neva

I'm hardly unemployable, as I've been employed steadily my whole life since I was 15 and am employed at a number of jobs now in a field unrelated to all this. As are most people who aren't geeks and not in Silicon Valley. My point is this: that social media, for all the work and content it asks us to create, is not monetarizing our time online like Second Life does.

For all the writing, linking, connecting, education, bug-hunting, etc. that we all do, there should be more compensation.

If I want to socialize with real-life friends and family, I just don't need any of these things *really* because I have email or telephone that I don't have to bat through a thousand networking geeks to get at.

If I feel the overwhelming need to socialize with strangers on topics like Obama or global warming or virtual worlds, they are all fine up to a point, but blogs and forums in that particular niche seem more rewarding than the widgety places.

I put a lot of work into all of them, and for a time did all the Facebook things you were supposed to do -- I joined groups, sent fish to people's aquariums, changed my status daily in witty and thought-provoking waves, tried to beat a friend I hadn't seen in 25 years at movie quizzes, sent Scrabulous offers that never got played, bit people, knighted them, put up photos, wrote graffiti on their wall, sent them love, hugs, drinks, links, put up my favourite books but didn't have time to review them -- and so on. And the net effect is that I have, oh, I dunno, 100 friends, 20 of them whom I know in real life and see some other way most of the time, and the rest of whom are actually acute strangers with whom I have little in common except some narrow thing like "Tibet" or "Virtual Worlds" or whatever.

Marshall McLuhan said the newspaper was the warm bath you climbed into every day, predictable, all-surrounding, etc. Now this warm bath has moved to the social media sphere.

John Lopez

I have been puzzled by the social media obsession for accumulating vast numbers for friends, most of whom wouldn't cross the street to say hello in the real world. It really seems like obsessive compulsive collecting that is totally unrelated to the concept of "friend".

I notice this in SL as well. When I give a talk I always get a flurry of friend requests. I don't mind accepting them, but them seem a blunt instrument to apply. When I see someone who says and does interesting things, I far prefer to toss that fact (along with the supporting blogs, research papers or whatever) into my research notebook rather than pretend we are buddies somehow.

A real world "friends list" is far my useful in my book, both for personal and business purposes.

As far as monetization goes, social networks pretty much are forced to resort to advertising. Nothing wrong with that, but there are far too many networks and far too few advertising dollars at the moment.

As far as *personal* monetization goes, most individuals use social networks as loss leaders to generate interest in themselves. I'm not seeing an easy way for someone to make much direct cash, except in the case of business leads trading services (which pay per valid contact and use subscription fees not advertising dollars).

I did find your idea that you don't work for free amusing, considering the amount of free content you have put out there in the past. I found this especially precious after you threw a fit that the IEEE had the nerve to charge for peer reviewed research.

Prokofy Neva

I put out lots of free content and will go on putting it out on my chosen venues because for me, it's a vocation -- or an avocation. I'm pointing out a generic problem that isn't just "my" problem or "failing" but an inherent difficulty in expecting everybody to play on these things endlessly, for free, endlessly filling them with content, working hard to write essays, beta-test, link up and connect people, etc. and watch how only a very tiny handful of people can monetarize it. It sort of pokes a big hole in its theory of equality and democratization.

Remind me what this IEEE issue was again, with links to you claim? In fact, I think there is an awful lot of overcharging in this field. Like, someone will have some really obvious marketing paper or some survey that hardly has anybody in it, and they'll want $2000 US for it. It's how they monetarize THEIR time, and I respect that, but they price out many people.

It's often the same people who go around saying "information wants to be free," which is why I came up with my adage, "Your information wants to be free, mine is available only for a consulting fee, however."

Maggie Darwin

Um...Obama is inevitable? I thought it was Hilary that was inevitable?

Not to worry; people who spend their lives immersed in liberal echo-chamber space, whether be it "progressive" social media (DailyKos? HuffPost?) or the local urban Starbucks are always shocked to discover that flyover country (i.e. anyplace that doesn't have a huge Democrat-controlled "social services" infrastructure...like maybe Bay City?) hasn't voted the way all their 20,000 closest friends did.

That's how they can tell there was massive fraud at the polls... :-)

John Lopez

The article was $15; probably not out of most peoples price range. (The IEEE services world wide audiences, and so keeps prices quite reasonable by US standards).

I am a member of the IEEE simply because, while it is fun to watch the blogs roll by, for correct information one needs gatekeepers and fact checking. Most importantly, verification is done in subsequent research. One of the things often missed about science is that initial results are suspect until reproduced.

Gigs Taggart

I think that this is the point that most SL-alikes miss. No one except 14 year olds with no money cares about a VW with no economy. The economy is why most of us are still in SL.

I know I'd probably not have logged back on a second time if SL had no economy or money system.

GeekMommy

I was wondering why we had seen less of you on Twitter... and have to say, it's a damn good reason.

There is something to be said for questioning why creators of the socmed sites are getting millions in funding while we are providing their content for free.

But why buy the cow... yes?

Still, it always amuses me when people say things like "you get the service for free, why are you complaining?" because the truth is, without our use, they don't have a product.

Fleep Tuque

This is a great post and came at a perfect time when I was just thinking about these issues myself. The economics of social media is a big question mark in all kinds of respects, but definitely in a personal economic sense.

Thanks for posting.

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