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May 13, 2009

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Doubledown Tandino

I'm not sure, but I think you're confusing the term "jumping the shark" with several other unrelated things.

a) the twitter a-listers aren't getting their way. If you follow mashable for example, they talk about all pros and cons. Scobleizer for example has been talking up a lot other than twitter.

b) the @reply and @mention feature has been around for longer than today, or this week. No idea why people decided to notice it today. If you start a tweet with @ its a reply, if you don't start it with @, then everyone sees it. Yes, the @reply views may change... the walkaround, obviously dont REPLY @ that one person if you want everyone to see it. "Do you understand @Prokovy? Everyone would see this message" "@prokovy , but not everyone would see this message"

c) jump the shark refers to one moment when a tv show desperately pulls a stunt to attract attention. The 'ashton kutcher & oprah' is more of a jump the shark moment than the a-listers continuing to tweet like they've done since day 1

Prokofy Neva

Um, I get what "jumping the shark" is, and I simply disagree with you about when that moment is, and apparently the literary device of comparing fail whales and jumped sharks went over your head. Oh well.

While sure, aplusk and oprah are shark-jumping -- they're shark-jumping by old media trying to be cool on new media. They are not shark-jumping on Twitter, which is fine without them.

But when the devs perform a radical feature-ectomy like this one, and start nerfing it beyond belief, that is jumping the shark in the sense that they tried to make something work because of various problems they had they couldn't fix in the system.

The reason TV programs would even have to jump the shark and get more desperate with gimmicks is because the shows were flagging and losing audiences.

In fact, once you peel away these nonce surges with aplusk and such, Twitter is in trouble. Friendfeed and Facebook both revamped themselves to be like Twitter and ate Twitter's lunch. Twitter's response is to try to frantically feature-cull and we'll see also feature-add to fix this.

Of course they're getting their way. You just haven't watched them and fought them as I have to see how it will work. They will not get this back. They will be told to shut up, and wait for track (the ability to write #word in your twitter stream and have it start picking up all tweets with that word from it, a command for tracking) -- which we used to have. And then mollified by saying they can do a track filter where it will edit out prokofy but still track your name.

It's not about noticing it today. You're all wrong about that.

People used it, and that's why when suddenly it was removed and they couldn't surf other people's convos, they rebelled.

The workaround is to put a symbol before like this: -@prokofy or .@prokofy

Desmond Shang

Some people can't handle more freedom than they are used to having.

I've run a group chat without moderation for three years. It's a 'closed' group to keep out ad spammers, an unfortunately necessary evil, but no one asking to join is turned away.

About every month or two someone gets furiously angry because someone states a disliked opinion on group chat. Sometimes a highly unpopular opinon, often relating to politics or religion or suchlike.

I point out that everyone has the same freedom to state their opinions, ignore the others or just outright close the chat, but that's just not good enough. The goal is to control the conversation until it matches the precise comfort zone parameters of the complainer (which vary from person to person). I refuse to moderate on those grounds every time.

As uncomfortable as the chat can get at times, it's still honest and real. Overall, it is more compelling than not because of this.

And that's exactly it: old versus new media. People can go back to the newspaper and television for a scripted feel~good experience. Teams of producers will ensure the content is entertaining, and never out of the comfort zone (unless you purposely choose that channel). Here however, it's the internet, and it's gonna get a little scrappy sometimes. It's worth it, because with that comes freedom like never before. Most people can handle that, and prefer it.

Prok, I told you early on that twitter sucks. It's gonna suck more and more. You are gonna lose this fight and twitter will be sanitised into irrelevancy, just you watch.

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>>So when the devs saw THAT happening, they bitched again at their lobster luncheons in San Francisco sipping their Chardonnay and got the search results to DISAPPEAR COMPLETELY a few weeks ago.

One thing great about Prok is that he always gets our California diet right. I saw a lobster special just yesterday over angel hair pasta.

Didn't get that myself (went for the halibut and rice) but I think Prokofy has a begrudging respect for the cuisine of the dreaded California technocracy.

Plus, we've got some *great* wines here. France has been on notice for years. Even "Two Buck Chuck" (typically refers to Charles Shaw Chardonnay) astonishes; every chance I have to sneak some in when there are wine snobs about, I do. "What is that?" "Oh, Two Buck Chuck! Have a bottle or three to take home..."

True, we have our fast food moments like anyone else. But for all our other ills there's at least the organic veggies to fall back upon when we have finished with the housing, computer, energy, and telecom markets. Plus the great weather.

Vaspers The Grate aka steven e. streight

I agree with you. This is a great post and I'm twittering it now.

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