As I've said before (but it's worth repeating), Woodbury University is a conspiracy, i.e. as a group with criminal intent.
You could invoke all your liberal notions of "no guilt by association"...were it not for one VERY salient factor which I've called to the Lindens' attention now in an abuse report.
And that is: Woodbury University is an invitation-only group. You have to IM Tizzy Teardrop to get an invitation to this, er, *cough* "student's" group.
So incessant rounds of day-old alts and week-old persistent griefers the Lindens never get to *are invited into the group knowingly and deliberately by Tizzy Teardrop or other officers*. It's not like somebody named "Niggerflavored Coleslaw" or "Soviet Admiral" killing my chickens just "happens" to join his happy-go-lucky wacky students' group and get a little out of hand.
That means when Soviet Admiral makes an alt with an ugly Soviet uniform and a semi-naked body with the Soviet flag stuck on his penis (sigh) and salutes as he flies into my sim to kill my chicken Hope by pushing her offworld to force her back into inventory and certain death -- that's a deliberate conspiracy by the "University" because Tizzy has invited him into the group deliberately.
When Tizzy invites himself (or the latest new recruit, but they all feel like the same person) into the group, and sees a title like "Soviet Admiral" and the griefing group "Bolshevik Poultry Extermination," obviously, he knows it's not a picnic but a posse.
This despite the fake disclaimer:
"We do not condone, endorse, instigate, or tolerate any violation of the Second Life Terms of Service."
Bullshit. If that's the case, um, why would Soviet Admiral be in the group? If you had an admiration for all things Communist, what's up with Niggerflavored Coleslaw then?
Today, I noticed the Lindens had done several things:
o they remove Niggerflavored Coleslaw from the people list -- yeesh, thank God, their notion of racism is still intact
o they had finally, after multiple abuse reports and a blog post on their blog about this problem, remove "Prokofy Neva" from the key words on the Woodbury Sandbox and one other parcel of theirs. Because whatever you might claim about "Ravenglass" having to be available as a key word for any land owner in the sim, another avatar's name need not be granted that "progressive interpretation" when it's clearly designed to annoy. It's gone - -but hey, so is the Woodbury Sandbox itself from search. Hmmm. It may well be that the Lindens are slowly winding up the Woodbury op again. I see only their two fake parcels in my district in Ravenglass (grief build) and Furness (grief build finally turned to stupid weapons store) are listed.
And here's where I also ban Beyers Sellers as participating in the legitimization of crime until he cuts the cord with Woodbury University, a criminal conspiracy. Yes, he has granted Intlibber/ACE/Woodbury the right to use the Metanomics name as a parcel where you can go and hear/see the Metanomics programs (because you can't all fit onthe studio sim). This helps legitimize these creeps, so until he's done with that, I'm done with him posting here.
Again, that's because these criminals cost me RL and SL damages -- killing chickens, forcing tenants to leave and so on costs real monetary losses. It's morally and legally wrong, but a TOS offense above all in our setting.
The avatar Niggerflavored Coleslaw, a racist alt made to attack and kill my chickens and harass me, is now removed from the People list by the Lindens, evidence that they found at least the racist part offensive.
Over the years, there have literally been hundreds of alts joining that group and very often *by invitation only* as it is NOT OPEN. The 547 people in there include inactive alt accounts and people who perhaps once used a sandbox. Are they guilty by association? Indeed they are, because it's a group now with a systematic pattern of TOS-violating behaviour, over and over again on dozens of accounts, criminal accounts which the officers *invite deliberately to the closed group*. At that saturation point, you can safely declare this a conspiracy.
That Beyers, and Desmond, and Carl have trouble with all that and get all thinky about how to parse where a group affiliation ends isn't my problem: I think it pretty much nails it when you can show that this *invitation only * group invites people documented as griefers over and over (I've easily filed a hundred reports on all these Woodbury griefing alts in recent years) *deliberately invites in the alts*. Um, it's not like Imnotgoing Sideways meets them and gives them newbie help; these, er. day-old characteris show remarkable proficiency with costumes and weaponry and of course homing ability to find me and my sims and harassment.




OK Prok...I can understand your position..re: Causing you both SL {inventory loss} & RL monetary loss with the stuff that has gone on with the griefing. My God that stuff is what drove me to buy an estate where I could at least control some of what went on. Can you clarify the sentence....
* Um, it's not like Imnotgoing Sideways meets them and gives them newbie help;*
Darn it.. you certainly retain an absolute right to ban anyone for any reason..or no reason.. just as I do from places that I've paid RL money. But how the heck did Immy get into this post?
Prok you have to kno I love that you are the first to say when someones naked...Linden lab or anyone else. The world, never mind SL, needs that. But I've known Immy for a bit...actually I'm a bit older than she..Six months or so SL {haha.. real life I'm older than most any of you. I've yet to see her create any trouble. As asocial as I am.. I love to kinda hang around the corner and watch ppl when they aren't watching me. Would I join Woodbury?...Hmm...no. Not 'cause of any ideology... just 'cause I have no idea of what that group would offer me. I tend to subscribe to Groucho Marx's tenet that I wouldn't want to be a part of any group that would have me :-)
Sometimes I have the darndest time turning loose of stuff. And as I've grown older I've began to see the great benefit {for me} in saying.. *Hmm...You may be right*
Namaste
Posted by: brinda allen | August 22, 2009 at 02:12 PM
Prok,
I *very rarely* attend anything you also participate in, I don't think I've ever set foot in Ravenglass region even once, and generally I don't even bother to read your posts about quarrels with griefers.
But I am in 110% in agreement with you on this one. The intent of a group can readily be measured by its actions.
Are there good people in Woodbury? There are adorable, if misguided kids in LA's streetgangs too. That doesn't turn MS13 and the Crips into daycare organisations, though.
If there are 'good people' in Woodbury, their decency is sure as hell not being represented.
And Prok I personally think you mischaracterise people readily and frequently, which has made me always question *any* of your allegations.
Regardless, Woodbury has earned the distinctive reputation of gleefully, repeatedly attacking a middle aged, unstable single mom across years.
It doesn't matter if they are the outsider's outsider, or crazy, or might have 'started it' or any of that nonsense.
Killing the chickens... this was the thing that finally got my attention.
Imagine, grown men logging onto their computers and doing this night after night. How low on the human pecking order do you have to be, to assert e~dominance like this and deny Prok some chickens? *Fucking* pathetic.
Shame on you, losers, and shame on all the rest of you in that group without the guts to take a stand against it, or worse yet, jeer along as the acts are committed.
Oh, but it's the outsider that everyone hates... and it might cost me friends and peer group status if I have to make an ethical choice? Why defend *Prok?* Disgusting.
Woodbury has earned its stripes as a hate organisation in my book. It's far beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point. It's been documented and put on Youtube for god's sake.
Does what I think matter? Probably not much, but you sure won't find Woodbury helping out in Caledon, especially Caledon Oxbridge, effective *immediately.* Not that we would have many, or any, in the first place. And I don't think my call on this will phase Carl that much if at all, to be honest.
In Woodbury, and don't like my call on this one? Take it up with your own.
* * * * *
And Prok we are *not* friends, you will likely find my reasoning horribly sexist and my response years late; these groups are simply not on my radar. So be it.
Anyone trying to be decent to you earns a tirade and cussing. Clearly, I don't care that much about your reaction or follow up post.
Sincerely,
Desmond Shang, Guvnah
Independent State of Caledon
Posted by: Desmond Shang | August 22, 2009 at 03:29 PM
Desmond,
I'm not unstable, but you're missing more than a few screws.
You fail to grasp that I'm not the only target of Woodbury University.
There are other rental communities, other individuals, other events, other random people who are griefed mercilessly by this gang, even raped on poseballs, even pushed around by giant phalluses, bombarded with ugly obscene textures, and subjected to the evil din of banality.
It is not just me by a long shot. It's just me that *talks* however. The others are afraid. They think if they say nothing, it will go away. They are seldom right. Some don't even abuse report -- they think it's random dumb kids. They don't realize it's the same people, the same avatars with the same names, even that are harassing me.
The Lindens know this, but they aren't talking. But the Linden decision to seize the Woodbury island about two years ago or so wasn't based on them attacking *me*; it was based on harassing loads of other people and crashing their own sim, deliberately. Huh? You missed this history?
Ditto the b-tards, w-hats, etc. These people crash sims all over, not just mine. They may have even griefed you and you haven't realized it.
Your smarmy, sexist and patronizing bullshit here is only an artifact of the media -- my media, my blog that reports on the crime of this group because nobody else does.
Posted by: Prokofy Neva | August 22, 2009 at 03:49 PM
blah blah blah
same shit. same story.
go find a dick to put your sagging granny lips on
have a beautiful day
~vince~
Posted by: vince braver | August 23, 2009 at 12:41 PM
@ Vince.
What an asinine comment.
*******
"blah blah blah
same shit. same story.
go find a dick to put your sagging granny lips on
have a beautiful day"
~vince~
*********
Vince..I've never met you or heard from you. I guess in that sense I'm so very lucky. Whether or not you like, respect, judge, or otherwise attempt to make an intelligent statement about some one or something it would seem to behoove you to look and see if you are *flaming* in an attempt to try and *be* somebody.
You don't need to believe me...(likely you don't really care)... but as someone of {guessing} one or two generations older than most in SL...it suprises some that kno me that when in a fit of rage I can turn a sailor red with embarassment....And yet my first thot, hopefully before my mouth opens, is what would my grandmother, or yours, think of me?
Rereading your comment....Perhaps think about what those people you respect think of you.
Posted by: brinda allen | August 23, 2009 at 02:07 PM
I have to get a good laugh out of someone with the last name "Braver" appearing anonymously to make a hate comment with vulgar sexist content. "Coward" might be a better last name.
These aren't people you educate, brinda, these are people you condemn, expose, and ultimately arrest if they begin to commit crimes in RL. That's all.
As for Atomo Beerbaum, his screed is removed here because he's part of a frequent-flying posse that griefs me and my tenants.
If his claims that he is "too busy at work" to ever do that were true, there'd be no reason to find him in the ban list in many of my parcels on many sims because he's appeared there in person to harass me. There'd be no reason for him to even come to these lands.
If what he said were true, the grief build put up in Ravenglass by the "Feted Inner Core Headquarters" of which he is a member, to continuously taunt and annoy me, wouldn't even be there. The "students" would be building something positive on their own sim.
If what he said were true, he'd have no need to make groups whose soul purpose is to harass me, and put in all kinds of fake Soviet imagery in the belief that this is going to "feed my conspiracy paranoia" when in fact it only illustrates their infantilism and poor taste.
If what he said were true, he'd have no need to evade an existing ban on this blog.
If what he said were true, the need for this post would be absent as there'd be no one griefing me and harassing me on a stream of alts invited deliberately into Woodbury University by its officers.
If what he said were true, there'd be no reason for Atomo to be in the grief-group Prokofy Fan Club, *and* showing on the front page of the group menu with the title "Ravenglass Tenant".
There'd be no reason for any of those things.
Posted by: Prokofy Neva | August 23, 2009 at 03:42 PM
Tizzy is not the only one who can admit people into the group, FYI. Also, just because ONE person from the Woodbury group decides to show up on your sim and harass you does not mean that the entire Woodbury group planned it. Quite a few times I've seen just one person get a notion and head to your sim alone.
If it weren't for the REACTION you give the people at Woodbury, you would have hardly anything to blog about- they wouldn't be bothering you. But, your conspiring is found humorous and so the harassment continues.
It is obvious that you go so far as to search for things that Woodbury does in order to piss you off. Lol, you are just feeding the fire & I think you damn well know that! Anyway, keep up the good work. My theory is that you want you to be harassed.
Posted by: Yours truly, Nikki | August 23, 2009 at 03:55 PM
Dear, um, I didn't say Tizzers is the only one.
I said that Tizzers is the one you have to IM to get an invitation *because it tells you to do that on the group menu, duh, look at it, duh*.
The entire Woodbury group is indicated, because for oh, four years or something, the same people in w-hat/b-tard/v-5/then Woodbury, merely the latest incarnation, have been harassing me. Hundreds of them.
I'm closing this thread because I'm tried of chasing anonymous griefers off it.
It's not true that blogging about griefers causes griefing. In fact, it's important to publicize what they do and keep naming and shaming them so that people can become aware and take action against them. They don't get to decide what I do in Second Life or harm the freedom of Second Life with this sort of destructive deception.
There is a conspiracy, in the normal criminal meaning of the word, which is about planning and executing crimes in groups.
Nobody wants to be harassed by assholes, I simply feel it's a good technique to name, shame, and strategically publicize the assholery now and then and AR them and try to mitigate the damage.
Posted by: Prokofy Neva | August 23, 2009 at 04:03 PM