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January 30, 2010

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AnnOtooleInSL

So the tradition of creating spectacles of stupidity and griefing to cause a mob demand for ending anonymity on the blog didn't work out so M bought an entire web site to extend the griefing out onto the web and hired the PN Herald's leadership to run the war on existing residents eh?

Makes sense.

Wikitar and other widgets don't save edits btw. And groups is your only shot at an ad for now. But accepting invites to other groups shoves your group off the screen so we are left with only our own groups lmao.

Oh and I am so looking forward to granting "Enemies Unknown" access to Secondlife.com and their garage coders making little widgets will get auth on the entire web site by account.

Durrrr

Lizzie Lexington

Um, so are you now a mirror site for WTFug? Why the fixation on avatar appearance? Sheesh!

Puma

LOL. I'm sorry you dislike my shapes. I like my eyebrows... to each their own <3 I wear glasses in RL too! As for the indentations... it's my graphics card ;x

Prokofy Neva

Because I'm tired of deliberate, catty, louche, faux-arch-ironic but retarded ugliness? I'm just *tired* of it. It's dishonest.

Wearing glasses is not the issue. It's deliberately making avatars to be somehow "normal and real lifelike" but with a deliberate catty hatred of them.

I'll bet some of you are men in RL.

Brinda Allen

Prok...RE: our brief chat last eve in-world...
Every now and then I guess I make the right decision {for me}. Yes I see no need for me to *commune* with other avatars outside Secindlife.

The scaling thing...the thots are scary 'cause they sound like a plausible reason for what's happened these last couple years.

I don't remember who originated the statement that SL is an experiment run by the Lab and we're just invited lab rats.
you kno...I guess lab rat is OK..'cept for the "X" amount of thousands of dollars I pay for my entertainment {and the lab experiment.
And....
"Enemies Unknown"
My god couldn't someone have forseen the subtle issues generated by a name like that! Sure, I really want to join something named Enemies Unknown!....are they kidding me?

melponeme_k

I don't plan on joining AU anymore than I do FB. My avi is a vehicle I use in-world to explore what other people create. I post pictures of it on my flickr and an obscure website. Thats it, nothing else is needed.

As far as avatar styles go, it goes through a lot of changes. We have the super tall fashion models on one end, the Japanese Kawaii girls on the other. In between there are these harlot types with greasy skin and then "realistic" ones. The problem I have with all of them is that they are all geared, to most extent, to the male gaze. When I first came into the SL grid, I was surprised to see women turning themselves into caricatures of photoshopped models. And I was curious to know what would we choose to look like if that had not been the case. I'll never know. And now I no longer think about it.

Now the fact that men are perpetuating these stereotypes and portraying themselves as understanding the female condition (through female avatars) pisses me off. But I'm not going to get into it.

As far as land goes. Yes, I think you are right that only the very wealthy hobbyists will be able to afford their own land. SL will raise tier rates. So that the small homesteaders drop out and will have to make do with Linden Homes.

On a stray note, I noticed that some of my scripted items are acting wonky. I think the grid is already throttling them. That means I have a lot of items in my inventory that will be dead in the water and worthless. Oh well.

Lizzie Lexington

@Prok - if I were a man in RL I would be a fabulous, stunning gay man a la Elton John! Listen I have respect for you as a writer and an activist in SL. Not all of us want to do that though. Some of us want to play barbies. Some of us want to create a character who may wear crazy glasses, jellies and SL "couture" with cowboy boots. Who is being harmed by this? Why not have respect for what some of us want out of our SL, like some of us do in regards to yours.

Lizzie Lexington

And for the record I am not in AU as of yet - I have enough social networking in my life and not sure if I need anymore.

Prokofy Neva

I don't understand your point Lizzie. People can do what they want. I do get to criticize it, however. In what way have I claimed that people can't where crazy glasses and cowboy boots? I haven't.

What I *will* do is criticize the ugly avatars that Puma Jie (What is juma pie, anyway?) and Arabella Steadham inflict on us day after day. They are ugly. They are deliberately made ugly as some kind of "fashion statement". It's a fashion statement with an undertow. They get to do this, and I can shield my eyes, but I can also criticize it as basically something wrong. It is not beautiful. It is not creating beauty. It is making a stance that says, "I will deliberately make these ugly women and pretend that I'm fighting for the rights of ugly women, but what I'm really doing in a subtle way is mocking them and hating them."

That's my take-home. Your mileage may vary. They get to make their avatars and sell them. I wonder how many people here have bought skins of avatars with wide-spaced eyes and greasy makeup, or glasses and freckles and snub noses. I see this on *fashion blogs*. I don't see it in world except on Toast and Ingrid who have always been pioneers in 'the rights of the ugly avatar' to be fashionable -- but of course they do this with a huge sardonic tongue in cheek.

Radio Signals

So images of beautiful women are objectifying and hateful. And images of ugly women are mocking and hateful. I know, let's cover all women up in black cloth so we'll never have to look at them again!

OH WAIT THAT'S HATEFUL.

What about images of women for women doing the things that these women like to do? That's what I think most of the SL fashion scene is, and I like it!

I know Puma personally and she is really not a very hateful person, especially not to women. (and I am a woman). She's not even hating on you, Prok. Give her a break, for real.

Lizzie Lexington

Everything that Radio says plus my own... Puma has a vision for her avatar that may not meet your standard of beauty, Prok. And I assure she is not "making a fashion statement", she is simply being Puma - a charming, sweet person and who btw is very kind to many people. And your words have hurt her and I don't like it one bit.

And Arabella is also a friend of mine and personally I love her avatar. She is also a kind, intelligent and a fierce human being. I have turned to her in the past for guidance and advice and I think she is simply wonderful. This personal attack of her is uncalled for completely.

I argue you are not criticizing but attacking people for their vision of second life. Frankly now I am classifying your blog among the likes of WTFug and Fashion Police. The End.

Scylla Rhiadra

"The problem I have with all of them is that they are all geared, to most extent, to the male gaze. When I first came into the SL grid, I was surprised to see women turning themselves into caricatures of photoshopped models."

This is too true, sadly. And the knee-jerk response -- that all giant-breasted, barely-clad women in SL must be men in RL -- doesn't do anything like justice to the problem. Too often, women want to look this way because they have been conditioned to believe that this is how they should want to look. And, in fact, I've heard women say that they were only "noticed" socially once they increased their breast size.

It's sad sad sad that SL, that should be an ideal means of challenging these kinds of stereotypes, is probably cementing them even more firmly in place.

Prokofy Neva

It's not about my standard of beauty. It's about what is beautiful universally. And it's about not doing the same thing over and over again, which is what these fashion blogs do. Formulaic. Ad nauseum.

What I don't like about the ugly avatar movement is that the people doing it think they are more-PC-than-thou by making "realistic" avatars, but in fact, they aren't really realistic. They are a kind of caricature. They are *skillful* but...there's something about them that is disturbing. It's like we *have* to have ugly avatars. I just never people actually chose those skins. I guess it's like a lot of fashion -- it's for the fashion mags, and ordinary people only select elements of them, or none of it at all. It's a strange cultural affectation.

Puma might be very charming and sweet and all the rest, and she's a skilled artist. I'm expressing my opinion. I'm tired of the diet of Juma Pie. Every single day in the feed. Endlessly. With the same type of avatar deliberately not-pretty. Where I'm *supposed* to say "I appreciate that this avatar is more realistic and not objectified beauty". Except, after while I have to say: but...it's still not beautiful. it still doesn't have soul.

I realize my expression my singular opinion can be hurtful and even incite anger. Then I can only say: then if you love what you do, if you can stand by it, then tell me to go fuck myself and just do your thing. But perhaps you might think: am I in a rut? Is this really my best? Is this in fact beautiful?

Arabella is a creep. Her avatars are aggressively ugly and greasy. Very unlike Puma Jie, who isn't aggressive and is more skilled.

I'm just expressing my opinion about what I'm sick and tired of, and how I feel railroaded into accepting a PC notion I don't wish to accept. I wish to say these avatars are not beautiful. I bet I'm not alone in that feeling. I believe in beauty as an abstract, higher notion. It doesn't have to be the beauty of the typical male definition or anything like that.

I don't know WTFug and Fashion Police but I do know this: every time one of those People magazines or whatever put up pictures and tell you what's "hot" and what's "not" and what was an awful dress at the Grammy Awards or whatever, and what was beautiful, I totally disagree. Totally.

Az Afterthought

I would argue that the AU acquisition wasn't motivated by scalability - but rather a need for SL to support relationships other than ones that are started with 'CAN I BE YOUR FRIEND?' Seriously, who's ever said that IRL after a business meeting? However, I would say that it's a bad and needlessly complex solution (I wrote a blog post about it here - http://a-res.info/?p=212 ).

About your feed problem, have you tried a web based feed reader service? I swear by Google Reader for following blogs, just add all the feeds you want to follow, and it just keeps a long list of links all up-to-date in an inbox-like interface.

Prokofy Neva

Um, yeah. I do know how to use the Internet. Google feed reader is for the birds. Even Scoble says that. It creates feed bankruptcy. You end up with a huge pile of feeds you never read and they sit there.

I've made my Google page put the feeds that are absolutely vital for work into the panels itself on the viewer, and that works, but I haven't taken the time to make an SL viewer. Having to log in and out of two Google accounts which I already do is a chore -- that would make three. I'm not motivated enough to have a Google feed reader just for Prokofy when I have...Twitter. Which does that better, really.

melponeme_k

Where Warcraft goes the others follow.

http://www.wow.com/2010/02/01/blizzard-launches-facebook-armory-app/


Thankfully I don't have an FB. But the moment Blizzard starts pushing to publish info about all my game alts connected to my real info is the moment I delete the account.

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