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May 12, 2010

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cube inada

lol.
whats nasty? me or this further gamezing of the walter mitty's.

. and totally expected. I did tell you insilico-- cyberpunk skil hax -copybot saviouer?lol-land sims- couldnt in anyway exist without LL "help".

so SL SIMS... but without the "production costs" what do we call that again? ah slavery.

company town art.. able to be valued by the LL accountants...or devalued in the open markets of "reality".

and artists will flock and hypster like bettina will "lead them"

all straight to non value. except for those who "blog" and dont actually do.:) woody allen satire becomes reality.. the PROMISE of virtuality realized...

"Im an Artist" M- cube3

cube inada

BTW- i just applied to be on the LEA...:)

consider my "running" the "dark knight of the arts"

the "hero" SL deserves...:)

im batman -cube3

Darien Caldwell

Will likely be the 70 most under-used sims in SL history. So much for LL being 'green'.

AnnOtooleInSL

LL moves all live music to LL art sim venues.
LL bans use of radio station urls on any non LEA sims.
End of nightlife in SL.

That is the future I see. Hope I am wrong.

cube inada

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20004811-261.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0

common sense and law will push back...eventually... though lets hope we dont "need" another millenia, to find it again.

can i haz free stuff masa.? sur

brinda Allen

Company store...Company homes...Company line. (unless your not onboard the Company line, in that case you're in the unemployment line)

Cube Republic

Prim buskers, the lot of them!

Desmond Shang

Ouch.

Could not be in more agreement with Prok ~ this is devastating.

Why should Carl Metropolitan bother to sponsor his SL art gallery in Caledon, for instance? He's got some incredible art in there from SL artists.

What about Persephone's theatre in Caledon Penzance ~ anyone who has been inside knows exactly what I'm talking about, it's an absolute jewel, nothing like it anywhere else on the grid. Can Persephone get free $L to keep it right where it is, in its native environment, where it's not just yet another exhibit amongst a dissonant jumble of others? I didn't think so.

And who is going to decide what is worthwhile?

Who gets to fete the artists with free land, and who writes the rejection letters?

Welcome to officially sanctioned diva drama, and another rocking blow to everywhere else.

Because if you aren't in the blessed 70 with an endowment, you are obviously second rate.

And though I have no dog in the hunt with regard to edgy art, I wonder how the artists who were packed off to Zindra will get treated. Carl once got suspended for an exposed nipple on a classical painting. Imagine what the Statue of David could do.

>_<

cube inada

history.. the first casualty of google brains. Well, good to see some "reality" of the obvious and completely predictable getting hammered in on "todays" post.

while yesterdays post- ancient;)- still has "better world" and "what we can do for game gods" tones coming from walter and mittie..;)

the irony is that LL is doing exactly what coconutz said they shoulnt do (cuase they are so swell for free markets)-- but are- for uh "the MARKET" or at least "their" 6 month version of what "the market" "is".(for them alone) no two needed to tango in the singularity..;)

abstractions for corporations and the loss of analogies for individuals- free citizens of "old school" countries or not...
a wonderful better worldz gamez.

truly the forest gump approach to civics for adults.

meanwhile - the FEDERATION OF VIRTUAL WORLDS descends on Washington DC...

maybe Obama will be there to beat them off with an Ipad.?! ;)

Cocoanut Koala

You smoke too much . . . something.

And I don't like cocoanutz. Call me Mittie!

cube inada

lol.
though im still- for a very short time, stuck in berzerkley and SF--- so fake- area... i dont actually smoke anything:)
one day you may find i was the most lucid in this peanut gallery;)
i do hope you find a pastime that you enjoy that hasnet been created to destroy free humans, mittie.

there are other flavors of virtuality, 3d and model making...

its a big internetz. so far;)

Cocoanut Koala

Well here's the thing. I had a really wonderful and fun five years. And - five years is long enough.

I figure I got into SL at just the right time, well before it got too junked up with corporate this and that ("all ur businesses and art are belong to us").

Never did I think of it as something that destroyed the free me.

The other thing is, I have already more pastimes irl than I can possibly shake a stick at! Since I closed my business, in fact, it has sort of opened up the floodgates of real-life creativity.

I will be happy and busy till the day I die, because that river flow never dries up. Never has, and I guess never will.

cube inada

ah mittie...
youve made my point;)

if only 5 years "was" long enough and rivers never became dry.

and THAT is the seductive power of virtuality, and why it was a "horrible" story all along.;)

Grim's (no long) Tales : Cube3

Cocoanut Koala

Well, if virtuality is the only egg you have in your creative basket, I suppose that might be "sad" for some. But I suppose others spend their whole lives happily at it.

By the way, I just visited one of your builds - the "Sky Cinema Fly-In Theater!" I love it! I'll go watch a whole movie sometime.

cube inada

mostly for Prok..

http://calacanis.com/2010/05/12/the-big-game-zuckerberg-and-overplaying-your-hand/

can make you really nervous what web3.0 might "hatch" from the serpents egg.;)

cube inada

;) its a fun environment. thanks.
it'll live on beyond LL efforts in two locations in the Reaction Grid (today), and soon, in a web browser MU format.

PS- all forms of media are forms of "virtuality". Thats what humans do. And why we "should" care , and "examine with adult eyes" how it affects others.

Skylar Smythe

Prokofy... you quoted my article without crediting *poke*.

Still flattered you read it though.

The M Linden interview by Dousa Dragonash and the article is available on The Metaverse Tribune here... http://metaversetribune.com/2010/05/10/linden-lab-ceo-previews-community-focus-and-coming-attractions/

Why does this have to be a bad thing? Why so much cynicism out of the gate? Surely we are all interested in seeing more rich content and cultural enhancement on the grid?

How about we wait and see what actually transpires before shooting holes in it? I think this is going to be a great thing... and will acknowledge the arts (finally) and draw more of the creative community into Second Life (if promoted correctly).

:) Can we just wait and see?

xoxo
Skylar

Crap Mariner

I'm actually kinda relieved to be a casualty.

Now I can just write my twerpy little stories and go for more walks or hit the workout room.

-ls/cm

Desmond Shang

Why it's a bad thing, is explained in crystal clear detail already.

Some of us have been doing all we can to promote rich content and cultural enhancement for ages.

But we aren't multimillion dollar corporations, we are regular people, and we are stuck having to charge for it.

WE are making sure that the multimillion dollar corporation can afford such largesse.

Let's look at this in the proper light. I had my openspaces jacked from 50 to 95 USD, played chicken with destruction of my estate two years running (125/month homesteads would have obliterated half of it, I don't checkerboard mine as private humper bunkers)... and now, with those added profits, they are going to *give away land* ... wtF!?

How can I possibly tell an artist to join up with Caledon any more? Oh no, far better to get an endowment! But if you can't make the cut, then come to us and pay dearly for land like everybody else, in what is now Second Rate Artist Land.

Obviously, there are some exhalted Arbiters of Culture somewhere that need to be impressed.

Do you not see a problem here?

We've had commercial land gutted by XStreet, small parcels gutted by Linden Homes, and now we have two classes of artists.

Yes, it's a *very* bad thing.

Unless blowing my estate right off the grid sounds like a victory for Second Life culture.

Guess I should have just diced all my regions into 16 sandbar islands, or rented to the humper bunker crowd. But stupid me, I did my very best to attract top creative types, largely succeeded, and now I'm about to pay dearly for it.

Want my support for this program? Scrap the free sims, and give the artists $L for endowments to do as they please, wherever they happen to be, and have the whole damn grid decide who is worthy.

AnnOtooleInSL

The twitter thing you have here is killing your blog. twitter credentials is too fucking slow and unreliable to have it on a blog.

I come to Prok's blog and it is white space on columns 2 and 3 for 3 minutes. Meanwhile the status bar says waiting on twitter. The cure for the internet is to stop putting twitter, google, and facebook crap on pages.

Magnet Homewood

Regarding live music in SL, these 70 sims are adressing the wrong problem, in my opinion.

It's not lack of places to play that are holding back many SL live musicians, because there are hundreds, if not thousands of venues they could play at, if they only wanted to play for free or only for tips.

The problem is, not many venue owners want to pay them the $5000L or more they ask for playing an hour (and I am not criticising them for asking a fee).

I doubt very much whether LL or the LEA is going to be paying performers to play on the sims they manage, so I expect these sims will be relatively empty of live music funded by the LIndens.

Cocoanut Koala

"Want my support for this program? Scrap the free sims, and give the artists $L for endowments to do as they please, wherever they happen to be, and have the whole damn grid decide who is worthy."

Now THIS - would be a great idea.

Of course that way, LL couldn't own you, control you, sanitize you, make you grovel, or take credit for you.

Therefore, they'd likely never go for this.

cube inada

"Of course that way, LL couldn't own you, control you, sanitize you, make you grovel, or take credit for you."

lol.. ermerge, mittie emerge!.

Prokofy Neva

Oh, ok, I'll ditch the Twitter thing. It doesn't matter to me that much. If you're on Twitter you can find me there.

Funny how Desmond is griping about Xstreet taking store parcels, Linden Homes taking newbie parcels, and Art Sims taking art parcels when...supposedly he has only embedded/lifestyle/roleplay stores in a context that would never want to be denuded on Xstreet; when he doesn't sell $150/150 prim rentals to newbies like I do (he has free land without a premium, which is even more attractive); when his entire continent's milieu is the art that the 70 sim thing couldn't possibly duplicate. Yet Desmond is worried. He must know something I don't know.

Darien Caldwell

"Desmond is worried. He must know something I don't know."

I think everyone should be. I've been watching the remake of "V" that's been showing (pretty good btw), and I'm reminded of something the evil V leader says. Her assistant asks "why are we giving the humans our Blue Energy technology?"

She answers: "Because they will become dependent on it. And then we can turn it off."

I see the same strategy here. LL will basically have the people who accept this land by the balls. Faustian bargain if there ever was one.

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