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August 18, 2010

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melponeme_k

The Love Machine world...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kwcIImGM8

Philip Linden doesn't understand the world he created anymore than the dark underpinnings of his own behavior toward the people inside it. He is brilliant, no denying that just not wrapped tightly.

Steam Bunjie

Hate to bust the bubble but everyone's fake, your only real when you get to explore yourself in Second Life.

How ever dark that maybe....

The real world is just a bunch of bollocks, where by everyone puts on the best fake face they can, in order to get that new job, promotion, or opportunity.

When you can be anyone but yourself, you will end up finding out your true self.

I'm sure that would make sense to sigmund freud.

Debi Latte

The behavior of people within the technology of Second Life is no different from how they behaved in chat rooms since the early 90s. I've watched relationships form and flourish.... I've seen marriages come to their ends because of the fantasy created in the minds of the people behind the computer screens. The technology doesn't make this happen.... people do. The difference in SL is avatars and animations.... things chatters had to use their imaginations to "see" in years past.

So... no... people's behavior isn't Philip's responsibility. He had the vision to create this 3D world which would allow the users (residents) to create their parts within it. It's not going to be any more perfect than the real world is. If we go in-world thinking that it will be some perfect rosy-colored-glasses world, then we are truly mistaken.... and, quite frankly, just don't "get it" at all.


melponeme_k

No, Philip Linden has responsibility for what goes on in SL.

The people who created the chat rooms of hold had responsibility.

They are responsible to instill ethical policies in their worlds and in their employees. Something none of them did. Which means the internet and it's worlds are a reflection of the poor social abilities of it's creators. We live in a world created by people who really didn't like other people. And oh boy how it shows.

Treasure Ballinger

I like the title. Can I wear it on my new upcoming Display name tag? /me ponders black/white friendships, nods. Is true what you said. In that aspect, the internet has made things better; when you know the heart of someone, before seeing their face, you have less tendency to run; fear of the unknown is always powerful, there is mostly no fear of the known. I didn't know any white people until I got to college. I had to widen my comfort zone, and still..it's hard to open your heart to what you've been afraid of. At any rate, hats off to Asri, awesome story and I wish I'd seen it. I wonder if they'll show that film, anywhere else now that Oprah's company owns it. And yes, shame on the educators who could not see the value in something where the value should have been obvious.

Debi Latte

melponeme.... how does someone begin to carry the load for all the responsibility for how people act in something as large as Second Life? And.... who's to say who's in charge of the world, at large? They've set some fairly basic TOS guidelines about not being violent (unless in a role-play scenario) .. and not being "ugly" (for lack of a better general term) toward other races and religions. But..... for someone to be responsible for how everyone behaves?

I ran a "chat room of old" and worked very hard to make sure it was a friendly place where people were comfortable to come meet and talk to friends. BUT.... am I completely responsible for what each person said? Who was responsible when I went to sleep? If someone met a new friend, fell in love, dissolved a marriage, travelled across the country, fell out of love, etc.... was I in charge of their behavior?

And... quite frankly... maybe some of these people should be held responsible... since they created the initial technology upon which the current "internet" resides .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Eventually... WE need to start assuming responsibility for our own actions. We have got to stop relying on someone else to take us by the hand and remind us all how to behave. We also need to realize that what is socially un-acceptable for us may be perfectly normal behavior for someone in another country or culture. We need to learn from that. No one else (including Philip Linden) is responsible for my actions... either in Real Life or in any iteration of being online... whether it be the "chat rooms of old" or the current, more dimensional metaverse.

Prokofy Neva

Debi, I hear you, I think you can't ask the platform provider to play net-nanny, any more than you ask your telephone or electricity companies to do anything -- in that sense they should behave like a utility. Telephone and electricity companies have rules about gross abuse but of course...it's different.

This is a world like a government where in fact the platform "utlity" get very involved. They make decisions that affect the moral code and not only the physical code. They have decided arbitrarily to open up to 16 year olds largely for business reasons to get them out of the jam of ending a product that some people will get angry about, and also merely to increase sign-ups which are lagging. There's no reason they couldn't make it 18 and older only, like a porn site or an R movie, but they don't because they have also aspirations to some higher utopian all ages world.

You don't want Philip Linden to say "I'm going to control it so that people's marriages can't break up." But you would wish he, as the god of the world, as some kind of authority, would say "It's sad, and ultimately that's not what I mean by a better world."

Instead, it comes off cold and cynical if he makes it seem as if he can "do nothing".

Of course, there isn't a clear cut thing for him "to do," other than to say, merely as a citizen of the world, my invention was intended to enlighten, not deceive, but once again, it reveals the dark springs of the human heart.

Stacy Passell/Ruby Destiny

I find the particular choice of a marriage-ruining, failed SL to RL relationship not only pandering to the trite media "zomg cheaters" mentality, which has been consistently reported for years out of balance from more positive stories like mine, and it did nothing to fill the dearth of stories about all the successful sl to rl relationships which in fact is desperately needed.

Far as I've seen, the media is still choosing these trite examples of the urban mythology of SL. Shame there aren't more stories about using virtual worlds to find love instead of destroy it. Shame it's always about the back-alley lurid details, as it always is in the media.

http://sl2rllove.blogspot.com/

Prokofy Neva

Truth in advertising Stacy, geez, you're lame. You run an online dating service with the email "Virtual Courtship" that promises to help people find true love on line, and apparently sells them skins and rentals. Well, great idea for a business, hon, but you can't expect the professional real-life media to pander to *your* need to flog your business plan.

The media choses examples that are low-hanging fruit for the taking. I've seen numerous relationships EXACTLY like this in my life as a landlord. In fact, some of the very, very famous heavily rotated "dream come true" romances flogged by media in the hype phase of SL ended on the rocks in horrible ways. Addiction to online love that ends in RL marriage often regresses right back to finding a new online love again, in search of that high. I've seen some people go through serial online loves and even marriages in that fashion.

If there are exceptions, great, but don't expect the media to serve as your personal propaganda megaphone because you're feeling insecure that maybe your online love isn't so authentic as you wish. That's what it's about: anger rooted in insecurity.

When there are more happy stories that are genuine, you won't have to come on and flog your line, Stacy. But there aren't, so...that's what you do, getting a high out of your sense of self-righteous indignation.

True Religion Outlet

this is her first book of personafdal essays. It was the last part of the review that inspired me to get online immediately and write this entry while the bundle of cuteness pictured above sleeps at my feet.

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