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December 16, 2010

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melponeme_k

So many people leaving, it looks to me as if the company is being folded into something else. The result being we go into maintenance mode.

But since they are still making noises about mesh, maintenance isn't the plan yet. I suppose we will know a few months into 2011.

Afterwards, if worse comes to worse, I guess I would wander around Inworldz or Blue Mars.

Cinder Roxley

jack was a good guy with a tough job. my only real criticism would be that at office hours he would indulge the loudest moaners there and pointedly ignore thoughtful questions continuing to pander to the likes of Darrius Gothly eating up 45 minutes of the hour.

Ann Otoole InSL

I can easily predict that adult content will end in SL or SL will close in the next year. LL does not have any means of us communicating the requirements of M and A rated content (we cannot rate content like we asked long ago) not be allowed to enter a G region. People on G regions can see and operate M or A rated content in adjacent regions. The solution was, is, and shall remain LL makes a separate G continent, adds content rating to the asset system, disallows anything but G on G regions, and prosecutes creators that insist on rating M or A content as G.

There is no way to communicate this to LL outside of channels moderated by coders that do not want these requirements floated up because they have some bullshit notion that people should have the right to rez perverted crap in front of teens.

So expect SL to close due to the incompetence of LL's investors who did not place a CEO in that would do exactly what is needed. Exactly what I would do regardless of assumed allegiances. The only allegiance an investor has is to Dollars.

Darien Caldwell

Ann, if someone circumvents the rating system as you describe, the onus is on THEM. Its no different than in Real Life, where kids find a Penthouse magazine, sneak a watch of a porn, or any of the things kids do on a daily basis around the world.

Kids are already doing all of this and MUCH, Much more in SL since there is no real verification, and nothing has ended. It's certainly not going to end because about 100-300 teens by LL's estimate, get plopped into a G rated sim.

Your ideas that content creators should police people's usage of products is some of the worst reasoning I've ever seen. By your definition, Landlords should be policing if people are doing anal in their bedrooms (as it's illegal in many states), Store owners should be testing people's Blood Alcohol Level as they enter the store, (because they could be too drunk to drive), And ISPs should monitor every thing every one of their customers do (since they could do so many wrongs after all).

It's ludicrous.

Leave it to LL to handle the enforcement of their TOS. It's not a merchant's responsibility.

Amanda Dallin

The teens coming to SL is being way over hyped. Rating content as Ann wants will lead to a very restrictive system where you cannot sell items without the approval of LL. Second Life would turn into There and really would close.

Laetizia Coronet

What teens do in Second Life, or on any other web-based game, is entirely the responsibility of their parents. Or at least should be.
There are loads and loads of hardcore porn sites out there, and none of them do more to protect minors than ask visitors to confirm their legal age and register at one or more protection services. And no, they are not all pay sites.
There is no reason why SL should be different. Responsibility for internet behaviour (*any* behaviour in fact) rests with parents.
Don't blame General Motors when your 14 year old causes havoc in your Chevy. Don't blame LL when he or she is wandering around A-rated sims in SL.
It's a bit off topic, sorry, but that's where the discussion seems to go.

Prokofy Neva

Laetizia is merely invoking the usual Geek Religion doctrine that tries to shift all responsibility for media in society back to parents in a bid to amplify his own extremities in fuck-you hedonism on the Internet.

I'm willing to bet he has no children.

I'm someone who monitors my children on the Internet by keeping the computers in the living room and discussing with them what they are seeing and doing. I don't have "moral panic" as the lefties always scathingly blast any public concerns about the immorality and nihilism of coders. What I'm concerned about more than porn is the hate and bullying that happens on sites like Facebook that can reduce kids to tears. So I talk to them constantly about their friends, their content, and they feel then they can discuss with me whether to get rid of certain friends, whether they see odd overtures from strangers, etc.

But anyone who has kids and has the Internet in their home knows that you can't sit and watch them every minute, you aren't always home, they go over to other kids' houses where the parents are missing, or they roam around outside with laptops with other kids who have them, etc. etc.

So I have no problem with the Australian government deciding that they need to block child porn, which is made by exploiting and harming children -- given the determined criminality of such operations, the point is to prevent your own children from being entrapped in them by delineating that they are indeed criminal and the government does indeed block them.

The hysteria about Australia knew know bounds in SL, but in fact the story is that...it never happened. It was a proposal that was floated by the government but not approved by the parties in parliament and now the legislation didn't succeed. To listen to the crazies in SL, it was already implemented and SL was already shut off, but it wasn't, and SL wasn't the target -- that was only the feverish gambits of extremists trying to whip up sentiment about it.

I'm happy that LL has moved some of the most extreme adult content out of the view so that it is not always in one's face unless one choses it. That's fine with me. It's about choice. You can set your viewer to see PG or M or adult. Duh, people abuse it and get around it. But it surely does mitigate the old view, which was a deluge of obscenity constantly which was really annoying.

The analogies of "General Motors" and driving is pretty silly, because getting on the Internet is far easier than getting into a car and driving it.

As for SL PG being marbled throughout the mainland, that was a particularly stupid artifact from the years before this policy, and duh, any teen could set up camp in a PG sim and right across the border, watch porn if someone sets it up in M, even if unable to physically fly into the M sim. But there aren't that many teens, and there aren't that many people who will do that.

As always with geeks, the argumentations they make are binary and as a result *fucking stupid*. The point is to *mitigate* not execute 100 percent perfect. If "border situations" start cropping up like that as some rampant situation, the Lindens will simply remove the PG designation of the sim where this is happening and tell the people to move to another sim they will designate in some new contiguous PG area. They will solve this problem as they always have, by force, if you feel the need to push it.

The PG stuff is something a lot of people would like to get rid of on their sims anyway.

In sum, responsibility for the Internet rests with society, which should be able to vote on policies through democratically elected representatives and not be overthrown by gangs of extremist geeks in the Wired State.

Laetizia Coronet

"I'm someone who monitors my children on the Internet by keeping the computers in the living room and discussing with them what they are seeing and doing. [...] What I'm concerned about more than porn is the hate and bullying that happens on sites like Facebook that can reduce kids to tears. So I talk to them constantly about their friends, their content, and they feel then they can discuss with me whether to get rid of certain friends, whether they see odd overtures from strangers, etc."

That sounds like good parenting.

"I'm happy that LL has moved some of the most extreme adult content out of the view so that it is not always in one's face unless one choses it. That's fine with me. It's about choice."

So am I. I never did say anything about that and much less about child pornography, which is horrible.

What irks me, is the registration song-and-dance, and that is all, and I want no part of it.

Perhaps next time you could read my reply and respond to that, instead of to the 'geeky extremist' Laetizia that exists only in your head.

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