Are the Lindens Coddling AnnMarie Otoole with Her Obnoxious Vehicles?

AnnMarie Otoole persists and persists. (Actually, it's usually her alt, AnnMarie Oleander, whose vehicles I see clogging up the Linden roadways more these days.)

They're on regular roads; they're in the air; they're in the water; they're on the railway; they're in my front lawn.

If I'm puttering around Ravenglass or Maryport pushing prims, I will either a) see one in the air b) be hit by one c) see one heading off into the water at Carnforth d) or actually see one on the road -- and usually ever 15 minutes. AnnMarie Otoole vehicles are now part of the standard menu of griefer prim litter as well.

It's especially annoying seeing them where they shouldn't be, i.e. the bus on the water, the car on the rail road, etc.

As you can see from the comments on the piece below, she now has them "morph" as they "sense" their environment, apparently.

The deluge of criticism makes her adjust the format to avoid having the Lindens remove her, I guess.

She was clearly in violation with the drop-down blue screen on Linden land demanding a sale (see above) -- but now when the vehicles come by and you click on them, they don't seem to have this sale/donate option. Has that been completely removed? Anybody know for sure?

But here's the thing: they are all still in violation. Or are they? They were surely in violation when going on other people's land, but they don't always do that. They were in violation selling on Linden land, there were tons of ARs; now they appear to have changed.

I was assuming that the Lindens were indulging this script-kiddie behaviour somewhere, and to my surprise, from a sampling of some strategic Lindens who should know if this is the case I come to find out...that it may not in fact be a Linden FICation. They may not in fact be coddling here, but it's just kinda happening.

While not really getting a solid answer on the AnnMarie Vehicle Overage Issue from Lindens, I'm hearing that they haven't exactly given her a pass as such.

The question is really this: why didn't the governance team immediately, swiftly, and strongly act on the issue of selling on Linden land?

Judging from the old police blotter reports, the Lindens used to constantly police selling in their Linden-owned sandboxes. Why not on their roads?

Answer: they did act. Yet it took months before it stopped.

Another thing:  Pushing another avatar is something Lindens also swiftly swoop down on in sandboxes. Why would it take months of ARing on the grounds that strange vehicles were leaving the road and hitting you to get Lindens to notice? (And they still do.)

Why do the Lindens allow one ego like this to take over the grid?

Why does this happen? Why can't they say no?

It's like the Bush Guy. And the ad farmers. And various other egos that have appeared over the years to suck all the oxygen out of the room. Why?

From my admittedly unscientific sampling, I'm going to conclude that it's due to the following:

o the Lindens never met a script they didn't like; their response to user creativity in the script department is never, ever to say "no" because that might cramp the script kiddie creativity. Rather, the response is to say: "That script and its function aren't illegal per se, but the way in which it was used is illegal under our TOS." That accounts for why Skills Hax gets to keep CDS Gemini and out alts, but xFire Xue gets deleted over Red Zone.

o when the Lindens get a lot of ARs, they tend to "deal with the case at hand," as the old Jesse Linden explained it wonderfully. Larger context isn't seen; larger context isn't wanted. Each and every AR is brand new, without a precedent. Every incident is a default to a robust "innocent until proven guilty," even if there were 83 tickets before that found to validate the guilt. Lindens may function in this way because they have no institutional memory; because they don't talk across frontiers within their own operation; because there are too many of them on too many time zones; who the hell knows. But the fact is, they may simply not collate all the ARs and see a picture in front of them.

o even if they get a lot of ARs and they reach the point of saying "Battery Street, There's a Problem," they may immediately have a Split Among Themselves. Governance may say "the natives are howling, e need to get rid of this," but the devs may howl back that this will Cramp Creativity of their script kiddie set. So they may argue and argue and the default -- doing nothing -- wins as a result.

I've been told that in fact the Lindens don't find this a load test of some sort, because if they want to load test, they have "aditi grid" or whatever the god of software havoc is called.

What does this leave us with? Well, you can AR under "unfair use of region resources" but if it crosses through your region in a minute or so, it may not really show up as much usage.

Yes, the Lindens are really bad at adjudicating governance issues like this that fall into their lap. If you put this to a JIRA vote (BTW, did anyone make a JIRA on this?), you would get a hands-down NO vote on this (or to be precise, to fit the geeky nature of the JIRA, you would get a 'YES" to deprecating AnnMarie Otool's vehicle script, and/or having her vehicles get gone from the King's Highways.)

It shows you how helpless we are in this virtual world that we can't stop something obvious like this.

Comments

[Ann Otoole InSL]

It is pretty damned obvious that person works for LL. It is so bad that when I go to places with "illegal" bots (getting them in the happening now event guide) that they mistake me for that person and shout the warning out to the bots who then vanish.

Yes. Rod Humble apparently allows his employees to run assault tip jars all over the grid to smash into residents, shoot them, and suggest an LL employee be tipped.

Those roaming zombie tip jars don't fare too well against my Russian Topol Mobile ICBM launcher though. I can ram them right off the roads.

[June Trefoil]

I'm pretty much in the camp of people Who Don't Mind Them. I'd be in the camp where people Love Them To Pieces if it weren't for a few solid objections.

A car in the water or on air or on the rails - in itself I don't care about that. I like oddball.

Making the roads or rails impassable? I go right through them. But I'm not sure about their effect on events like a snail race on a road or a rail rally. Do they impede those events? If they do, then I don't like them.

Cars getting stuck on people's property? Yeah, that's the thing. In my own SL worldview, a person is Emperor of her Mainland parcel and has all rights therein. And that includes not putting up with an ice cream truck sticking out of her nicely manicured purple lawn.

Does the public like automated vehicles in general? I like them.

But maybe that's the thing that LL is wrestling with. Keep the well-behaved but not the badly behaving and figuring out how to draw that line. Can the bad behavior be fixed? The script method that AnnMarie uses is very different than other automations. Maybe LL can't ban that method because there are other uses that people don't complain about.

[Cinder Eichel]

"The script method that AnnMarie uses is very different than other automations. Maybe LL can't ban that method because there are other uses that people don't complain about."

Why ban the script if other people are using it respectfully? AnnMarie is the problem, not lsl. Speaking which, I saw AnnMarie Resident setting up one of her rez points across from my home and confronted her about it and watched for about an hour while she tinkered with it (now sending ice cream trucks and tanks down a BEACH TRAIL)

Cinder Roxley: it's a beach path, not a road
AnnMarie: :)
AnnMarie: I can fix that.
Cinder Roxley: did you fix it yet?
AnnMarie: :) Still working on it.
Cinder Roxley: awww that's too bad.
AnnMarie: /34412 ON
AnnMarie: See if that starts it?
AnnMarie: Yea
AnnMarie: Cool

and off they went.
http://cinderrawks.tumblr.com/post/5650381323

[Perrie Juran]

I have run ins with those vehicles while actually using the rail lines for what they were intended, riding a train. She shouldn't be allowed to ride over everyone else like this. There was a thread in the Flogs not too long ago about this subject. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Mainland/Those-cars-on-the-mainland-roads-Grrrrrrr/m-p/775119#M238

Self replicating crap should not be allowed on the Mainland like that.

[Cinder Roxley]

same problem here, perrie. some of her cars aren't phantom and can derail me on a train because she runs old chevys and ugly trucks down the railways both directions, runs ice cream trucks and tanks down beach paths to shoot and push anyone in it's path in 10 minute intervals

[Prokofy]

Cinder, that interchange with Madame Otoole is just amazing. Such chutzpah. Software hubris...

[Cinder Roxley]

oh i know, and it certainly goes to show she's not interested in respecting the trail or her neighbors whatsoever. she's doing it just because she can. *sighs*

[Oryx Tempel]

So it's OToole's fault that the Lindens can't figure out their scripts?

[Amanda Dallin]

@Oryx
No it's OTool's fault she's a disrespectful self important jerk. The script is not he issue, the person is the issue. Most people who are AR'd as often as she is would be banned. Why is she still around?

[Cinder Roxley]

Scourgemobiles jammed on abandoned land and me being attacked my AnnMarie's tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7r7Dr_He-k

[בניית בריכת שחיה בריכות ים]

They were definitely in breach when going on other individuals area, but they don't always do that. They were in breach providing on Linden area.