Oh, Superman, Oh Judge: Tux Winkler's Thug Life

Laurie Anderson's Oh Superman

Whenever I see some thread about this JLU saga, I can't help humming this old tune from 1981. Actually, I saw Laurie Anderson play it in concert, live, in New York. I remember how novel it seemed in those days, when answering machines were just coming into wide use. Everyone thought her song was very electronic and weird, and when she suddenly broke into the line "Hello, this is your Mother!" everyone burst out laughing at the contrast. But it wasn't her mother. It was The Hand. The Hand that takes away...the song was on the top of the charts in the UK in 1982, with its anti-American government hate-memes (mined again happily after 9/11), so beloved by a certain type of Britishy lefty, eh?

HACKER'S ASSUMED POSE OF INDIGNATION

Today's topic is Tux Winkler's thug life -- not so carefully cloaked but rather on display.

First, a bit of generic background. Perhaps you recall the story of the arrested hacker on Forbes. This was actually quite interesting because it revealed a very, very typical characteristic of the griefers we see in SL and their counterparts (typists?) in RL -- pretend indignation over lax computer security and furious justification of themselves as only helping to reinforce that lame security. This is the story of two hackers who vandalized AT&T and ipad and exposed lots of customers' emails and data, all the while presenting themselves as important do-gooders contacting law-enforcement defiantly:

The more vocal of those two young hackers, Andrew Auernheimer, has repeatedly claimed on his blog that the stunt was meant to raise awareness of a major security flaw in AT&T’s network, not to exploit the data for any malicious purpose. “AT&T needs to be held accountable for their insecure infrastructure as a public utility and we must defend the rights of consumers over the rights of shareholders,” Auernheimer wrote in a haughty open letter to U.S. attorney Lee Vartan in November.

The headline of this story lets us know that the FBI doesn't fall for griefer logic as much as Lindens do: FBI's Lesson to Alleged Ipad Hackers Dont Be a Troll.

Vicious Hatred of Your Victim For...Being a Victim

If you read the Wikipedia and blog on this character, you see the classic MO -- vicious hatred of people that he himself is in fact attacking, not helping. Pretense that his malicious hacking and damaging of their business is "helping". Yet...the FBI pointed out that he had never contacted AT&T to warn them first, as he claimed.

Indeed, it's often the hallmark of these types -- they have a visceral, obsessive, unreasonable hatred of security flaws -- it's a kind of hysterical pose -- and a faux indignation that this is somehow some outrage committed on "the public" that only they, righteous citizens crusading to do good -- supermen! -- can fix, with their superior hackers' knowledge by...not writing a letter to the company and informing them, but hacking and taking down their servers and stealing their customers' data. Right!

Yet in reality, they're like child abusers who sometimes exhibit an exaggerated concern for the welfare of the child they are actual harming, i.e. worrying if their hands are cold without their mittens even as they abduct them. It's a pattern that law-enforcers notice.

We've all seen it -- this haughty hatred of the company or website with some kind of SQYL flaw somewhere, which is all too common -- or The Wrong Hands, speaking about the JLU data base they hacked. They're no different.

Not a Griefer! Really!

Typical is a story Tux weaves on JLU.  He went trawling and trolling for trouble to a science fiction event guarded by the JLU, dening that he was in fact deliberately looking for trouble, and pretending he was just some ordinary sci-fi fan who was indignant about how the event was run.

Although he loathes Kalel and heckles him at every turn, suddenly he pretends that he's there to to "help" and that someone should even hire him and his thug pals to see if their sim is "griefable" (sigh). While he is sitting there, "minding his own business," bitching about being tracked by JLU security, someone manages to rez a steel penis around Kalel to try to humiliate him. Now, the mask slips, and Tux stops pretending to be a civilian or indignant about poor security at sci-fi events and laughs maliciously at "the man of steel" and then publishes screenshots so that others can humiliate him, too. Hallmark of a griefer -- malicious enjoyment of another's misfortune (zloradost').

All along, he continues his faux outrage at being mistrusted. But in this story, one sees the classic markers of the griefer enabler with all their phony tics and memes. If you have people like this who form that enabling circle around the active grievers I've talked about, you have to ban them too. They may be touts or look-outs or coordinators or holders of inventory -- they do whatever it is they do. They may not technically rez a cube or execute a script, but they are part of the substrate.

Psy-War

They are what enable griefers to persist because they do two important jobs: a) legitimize griefing by not condemning it, or condemning it falsely (they love making groups like "Concerned Griefers of America") and b) shifting attention away from the crime of griefing itself to the supposed "real problem" of lax security and the ridiculous nature of wannabee vigilantes. Tux speaks of "wild accusations" and how he didn't grief " the security did it for themselves." But that's a lie. People shouldn't have to live on their sims with all the creative capacity of SL turned off or locked down simply to prevent humiliation by a giant steel penis. The real problem is the assholes who do this, and they are not numerous or legion or anonymous, they can be dealt with and found and the world kept free.

On Slun, Aldbaran Galicia asked Tux whether he knew beforehand whether the JLU would be providing security. Good question! He claims not, although he came on invitation of the griefer Ryokashi. If I were the Dr Who and Tardis people, quite frankly, I'd remove these people from their groups unless they stopped showing up simultaneously every where griefing occurs and pretending they know nothing. It's obvious to me what's up, but it may be less so to others. They might consider giving one warning, and then making it clear that they are indeed associated with guilt and they can end that association by...ending that association. That is indeed what is required.

Tux's Alt Abuse

Now, to come to today's dubious story and boasting claim. Tux Winkler claims again that Kalel Venkman was "caught red-handed" for what he did to the W-hat (apparently a reference to a claim that Kalel ran an alt that joined the W-hat group, somehow got officer status, and used it to remove everyone from the group -- the real question is why LL itself didn't disband the group for its dissembling as it engaged in under-the-radar griefing, its constant provision of R&R for the active griefers, its constant aiding and abetting, and its constant actual griefing itself. He claims that the only problem is that "LL hasn't acted" -- as if LL is -- once again, in the usual false concept of the griefer -- lax in its security, to blame for its own problems and the misery of its own customers from griefing.

Tux affects world-weariness with his own incessant tickets, and lets drop that he is now a premium member again. That means despite being permabanned on the name Tux Winkler and not being welcome in SL due to his recurring enabling of griefers and his having been caught somehow tracking or hacking the JLU, he has defiantly put some kind of payment form on file from something and using proxies or perhaps merely the same ISP, has reinstated himself casually, despite whatever hash bans the Lindens claim to put in place. There are ways of circumventing even those, and Tux is bragging that he has done this. And it may be a trivial matter if you work in some IT firm or run your own servers or whatever.

So far, Rodvik has indeed done nothing, nor his lieutenants deputized to handle this. That is, they did something, and got rid of the griefers, but they can't get rid of them completely (they should always try, anyway). What they didn't do is get rid of the JLU -- likely because there was no case. Even the Lindens need a case.

Rodvik's Curious Bearpony

Rodvik now gifts people with a curious Linden bear in the form of a pony -- just like the My Little Pony knockoffs called Bronies in SL that Tizzers and co. invaded. Mind-fucking British humour to let us know he's really one of them? Or a victory dance? Or maybe he just likes little pastel-coloured wide-eyed witless ponies.

Tux's Tea With Scotland Yard

And now for Tux's real big story -- this, um, law-abiding citizen who has just informed us he has evaded a permaban to essentially hack back into SL, this malicious griefer who enjoys humiliating Kalel. Today he "spoke to the MET (Scotland Yard) at length."

"I was spurred to do this because a potential customer asked me about Second Life," he tells us, Big Man on Campus, capable of bringing LL business -- or not -- at the crook of his little finger.

"Anyways," he says, in that give-away under-educated ungrammatical dialect of his. "They confirmed I am NOT under investigation. Although there has been allegations. They looked into these and found them to be false. Mostly to do with Anonymous."

Um, I'll bet. Or...sad, if true. You know, the way one could come to suspect that Tux is really in fact LulzSec/Anonymous is because he denies it so much -- unasked.

More Psy-War

This casual remark is intended to accomplish two forms of psy-war -- 1) to let those who know that he really is Anonymous/LulzSec/a hacker of some kind that he has now become "untouchable 2) to let those who don't follow all this deeply and take him at face value and believe his bullshit that he is in fact exonerated by law-enforcers.

As for no. 1, I have no idea whether he is or is not one of these real-life hackers. He exhibits the same cultic philosophies (see above), the same fuck-you braggadacio. But I have no desire, tools, or means to track hackers, so I leave that problem for others to solve.

As for no. 2, I can speak to that issue. In real-life, real law-enforcers like the FBI or Interpol and I presume Scotland Yard, when asked to prove you are not under investigation or not one of their secret agents or not a criminal, they do not provide this for you. (That was a curious marker from CheerGirl's supposed communication from Concierge, which supposedly gave her a statement in writing that that account was not a subject of a disciplinary action -- I've never seen the Lindens do that, as their usual posture is to say that they do not reveal any aspect of the disciplinary process.) Perhaps Scotland Yard behaves differently, but I've never heard of any law-enforcement anywhere giving someone proof that they are "not a criminal" or "not a suspect" in this way, on demand, from someone that allegedly 10 minutes before that they were investigating on charges of having hacked a dbase.  They might speak to the working press and say that someone is not a suspect or person of interest, but they aren't in the habit of issuing clean bills of health all day to miscreants trying to whitewash themselves.

But this legend, this story of exoneration, is a false flag that hackers wave as part of their whole bad-faith act.

So that's a marker for either a lie, or an exaggeration, or a worrisome indication that perhaps there are more corrupt forces in Scotland Yard than we knew just from the papers, about the ones being paid off to give people's cell phone data to unscrupulous reporters from the tabloid press.

Three Hours with the Bobbies

Then, untroubled by dropping this rather dubious claim, Tux persists in the story, telling us that he spoke for *three hours* to Scotland Yard. There's another marker of oddness -- again, law-enforcers have real crimes to pursue -- enormous numbers of them, and increasingly on the Internet. They don't have time to sit and chat all day about who rezzed the penis on KalEl and what meanie is calling Tux a member of Anonymous and getting him set up. Unless, of course, they *do* suspect him and *they* are on a fishing expedition -- but in this story, Tux portrays himself as the "superior intellect" able to manipulate everyone else at will.

He claims that not only did Scotland Yard exonerate him (!), and not only did they speak for hours on end (!!), they even provided extra helpful information, like the fact that people who operate in groups to stalk someone constitute a "conspiracy to commit crime" (a point I often make, in fact) and are an order of magnitude higher in criminality than a loner. That's in fact why the police should watch The Wrong Hands as a group and all their members, just as ostensibly they are watching the JLU if in fact anybody really has anything on them. Tux even explains in detail the lovely technical convo he had with this Scotland Yard officer, and that officer's hearty machismo and conspiratorial winking (supposedly):

"I also explained I was concerned because Kalel said he had proof I hacked them. And that I was concerned he had changed the apache logs to reflect this. He said they wouldn't use the apache logs anyway, unless Kalel can modify the ISP's logs and traffic logs of the internet, there is no way he could hide the truth. And any attempt to do this will show guilt.

I also told him that they have said they have deleted the information. He laughed and said, and he burned the ISP's backups? And managed to eliminate the leaked data? Then he assured me deleting the data will not prevent them in the duty."

If indeed the JLU has faked a hack and hoaxed Tux to remove him because they find him sinister and duplicitious -- no surprise there -- why, justice will prevail if Scotland Yard gets their man. We'll await developments.

Fixing a Hole Where the Rain Gets In...

But...Tux has strained credulity on three points already -- 1) the claim that law-enforcement writes you good-health chits 2) the claim that law-enforcement spends 3 hours on your SL drama 3) the claim that law-enforcement suddenly converts a suspect permabanned from a platform and accused of stealing a wiki into a comrade to help catch the JLU.

Now he strains it further with a 4th twist of the knife:

"In truth I think he was quite interested in this. He sent me an email reminding me to send the information to him. He also said the problem with real life superheroes is that one day they are going to get hurt and it's their own fault for taking the law into their own hands."

Sigh. Yeah, I'll bet he said that lol. Oh, Superman! Oh, Judge!  Again, RL law-enforcers don't gloat over your enemies with you. That is, even they are decent.

Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink.

Now, how do we know that a lot of this is largely fake -- or least, even if partially-true, insincere and sinister?

Because Tux goes on threatening me, and because I go on getting griefed inworld, that's how.

 
I'm doing nothing more than writing about these events with a critical eye. I don't buy the griefers' line, and I don't have much use for the JLU. I see the griefers involved in a rather threadbare hustle now that even true believers are starting to lose faith in their shtick. There'd be no reason to harass and grief me and threaten me *if you were sincere about actually not being a griefer, and if you were sincere about actually just being an ordinary civilian concerned about overzealous vigilantes."

That's not Tux. Because Tux is a real-time thug.

He ends, appearing to be a world-weary, troubled, but honest and sincere citizen, "just doing his job":

I don't want to see any of the JLU locked up. I just want to see them stop and realise what they are doing. But they just wont do this. So I see no other option than to do as the police have asked, and leave it in their hands.

I will document this over the weekend.

Um, ok. You do that, Tux. And meanwhile, the rest of us harmed by you *will keep documenting you, too*.

Fellow-Travellers

But there will be some people who continue to believe his lies -- here's the gaggle of griefer-enables who golf-clapped Tux's outrageous story of going to Scotland Yard, chatting for three hours, and getting a lovely chummy follow-up email:

6 Users Hugged You:    
Aribeth Zelin, Casey Pelous, Cathiee McMillan, Julia Dis, Marie Reynaud, Potosi
19 Users Said Thanks :    
bronxelf, Cathiee McMillan, Da5id Abbot, DoctorZen, Evola, Fox Stirling, Innula Zenovka, Julia Dis, Laverne Unit, Mana Darkes, Marita, Morgaine Alter, NotoriousD, pancake, PhantomZone, Potosi, Qie Niangao, Ryokashi, Tracer Graves
2 Users Agreed:    
Julia Dis, Ryokashi
4 Users Like This:    
Cj Melgund, Julia Dis, Morgaine Alter, NotoriousD

Tux's RP Fantasy

My hunch is that the story of Scotland is made up out of whole cloth -- or at least highly exaggerated. It is part of an ongoing fantasy Tux indulges in, as we see from his blog dated August 25:

Of these accusations, by far the funniest was in fact Kalel’s statement he has been compiling RL information for both the FBI and Scotland Yard.  Having implied I have been reported for  hacking their server.  I would love to have seen the response on the police’s face!  I would love for them to cone [sic] round for a cup of tea to share their comical story.  But I guess that wont happen as I understand they are quite busy with real crimes.

Well, not too busy to talk to Tux for three hours! lol.

Here's what he writes on his blog about my blogs about him:

Tux's New Threats

He claims that *after* threatening me very specifically, that he would come and "play" with me in world like I had "never been played with," those griefings that followed with the trademark TWH/Woodbury/Soviet motif and dead cats (like I'm a "cat lady") are in fact "not him".

In fact, it doesn't matter if it is not literally him. Because again, he is creating the *substrate of griefing*. He is an enabler. He creates the climate of impunity. He dog whistles, and others, either obeying him in his cult, or merely freelancing, come and grief me with that same sense of impunity *because he gives them approval*. He may even give them inventory, for all we know. But he holds the cloak.

He goes through a hilariously elaborate denial -- he never uses furries, or defaults or RL info, he tells us. So it "can't" be him because he's a more sophisticated griefer. Er that is, he "never" does "PN style griefing" (he may help PN style griefers, as many believe and some have witnessed, and enables them -- or he may do his own freelance griefing lol).

How do we know? Because his denial contains within it, *an even worse threat*.

And finally, Prok, if it was me, your sims would be dead.

Um, well, it better not be, because making my sims be dead is harming me and my tenants, and if the Lindens can't control it, I will indeed be happy to go to the authorities and pursue it.

And if you don't want to be accused of following up on your threats against me, it might be a good idea not to make new ones, hmmm?

"The JLU made Tux's reputation, not me," says this fine upstanding citizen. Oh? Then there's not need to tell me that "my sims would be dead," then, eh, big guy? Then, this nasty:

But know this, LL knows who it is, they have the IP, MAC, HDD SN & CPU ID.  None of which match mine.  If you would like an example of my methods please just ask.  I have nothing to loose right?

You know how else you can tell what a sinister assfuck he is? By accusing me *me* of being a griefer and lying and moving a prim, even as I take a picture of my tenant's griefed lamp, which is up in the air as anyone on the sim could have seen for some days, because griefers exploited the "share" and the "anyone can move" function. Obviously I don't have any need to take my tenants' lamps and put them  in the air and the pretend to document them LOL.

And then, the finale, from Mr. Concerned Citizen:

If you are going to grief yourself because you aren’t getting enough attention, just say.  All of TWH have stopped griefing since the JLU wiki started leaking.  All of TWH have their own avatar.  None wears the default AV’s.  At least export mine before accusing me.  It would hold a little more credibility.

And in case it isn’t you, I suggest telling your JLU friends the above advice.  They know we always wear our own AV’s.  They are the things that identify us.

If you want me to come show you how I get down, just ask.  I am happy to put on a performance.

Ugh.

Obviously, just because griefers had one MO for years on end doesn't mean they can't change, or freelancers they are enabling can't change. I have no need for extra attention. To be sure, griefers always identify themselves. That's how they get caught. But not always.

Threatening to "put on a performance" for me because I merely document what's being done to harass me and my tenants and make logical accusations based on past threats, is big-time thuggery. But then, we knew that about Tux.

ID'ing the PNS

Then, another response to my report on Ryokashi, who indeed came to the sim of Alice and was documented as such. There were three avatars. I was able to photograph them they hovered around me. If I only got two out of the three, so what? I wrote the names down on a card. There was definitely a third -- Ryokashi. I abuse reported them. I wouldn't have any reason to make up a name like Ryokashi which was new to me at that time, having appeared only two weeks before that and being hard to spell. The Lindens know the truth of this because they know who was on the server.

Yet both he and Tux persist in pretending that he is unrelated. Interestingly along the way, however, Tux reveals his deep knowledge of all things PN by being able to identify which PN was which -- he can tell Fitty from Docking lol. I couldn't unless I could catch their hover text in time.

For extra credit, Tux is able to ID Docking as he griefed Ravenglass the first time in 4/11 -- even though he is in another PN outfit. God, he's good!

Again, I've never had an account permabanned. My account hasn't been suspended and removed from search since 2005, when vicious oldbies and the Lindens in cahoots with them got me suspended for 3 days once (on my first offense!) for...swearing in PG. First they TP'd me to a PG sim, unawares, then they goaded and harassed me until I said "fuck you". *Instantly* a Linden was at their elbow booting me from the world -- and for a curiously long period, although normally, first-time offenses get warnings, and swearing in PG doesn't lead to such a lengthy punishment.

So again, I document things to the best of my ability. If I make mistakes, I correct them. It's easy to mix up names like Robble Rubble and Ryokashi Revestel *snort*. But Ryokashi was definitely on the sim in 4/11. Inworld, writing out the names of avatars I see before my eyes on a sim in PN outfits, I'm not going to somehow "mix them up".

Oh, for bonus points, we get Ryokashi in the comments admitting indeed he *was* in the sim -- so that's twice he has "randomly TP'd to a sim" just "happening" to come as PN griefers were busy harassing me.

He claimed that these people had rented parcels. They did the first time in Ravenglass. But they didn't the second time, so it's funny he misrepresents it. None of them adequately explain how they were able to stalk me to a sim not on my picks.

As Cummere smarms to the toxic Tux, she's glad he did this, "even if it took a customer" making him do it (snort), and it should dovetail with other reports that Fred Rookstown (an original PN leader named Nexis) and the self-pitying manipulative Zip Paz.  More on him next.

Meanwhile, Fred goes about making a secret wiki out of the JLU's secret wiki he is supposedly leaking LOL, and The Pink Hands fight among themselves because Robble Rubble reverted to true form and threatened to grief somebody who didn't do what he liked.

Comments

[cube inada]

"Im Batman"
MIPS....
comic book value...
30 years on...why is this any surprise to anyone that folks act this way....

masks. avatars, virtuality...and playing in reality... never gonna work out well.

C3

[Ariadne Korda]

For the sake of accuracy, a quick check on Google shows that both the Met and Interpol do have mechanisms that permit members of the public to access their own personal data. It is a principle of good governance.

http://www.met.police.uk/information/faq.htm#q2

http://www.interpol.int/About-INTERPOL/Structure-and-governance/CCF/Commission-for-the-Control-of-INTERPOL%27s-Files

[Prokofy Neva]

No, Ariadne, thanks for your usual attempt to play the bitch queen, but you're all wrong.

Law-enforcement officials do not give people certifications that they are not committing crimes *in that fashion*. You can do arrest checks on the Internet and even some government dbases. But that's *different* (and if you weren't being an asshole out of your grand sense of grievances, you'd get that) than an officer of the law handing you a written chit saying you are clean.

Especially if you are a subject of an investigation previously.

You are let go, you have no criminal record per se, and that's it. But you aren't given some "certificate of good standing". That's an imaginary thing that griefers concoct -- and real-life criminals -- and that Tux here has concocted.

If he'd like to convince us that this is true, he can get the badget number of the officer, his name and his rank and location, and then the press can check the information. Oh, his real name, too.

But he won't be doing that, so it's just empty manipulative posturing.

Like *you*'re doing right now.

[Prokofy Neva]

See, if you weren't trolling and being an asshole, and were in fact inquiring in good faith and discussing with actual curiosity and intelligence instead of malice, you might then have a mind open to finding out you're wrong, and Tux is lying:

http://www.met.police.uk/information/faq.htm#q2

5. How can I get a "Police clearance certificate" / "Certificate of good conduct" for visa or emigration?

The UK police do not issue "certificates of good conduct" or "police clearance certificates",

Right.

They don't.

And you can't use those pages *to get information about other people*. They don't give that out, duh, for privacy reasons.

So Tux's claim that the police have essentially verbally told him a "clean certificate" is bullshit. And they will never give him one. And no such thing could be accessed except by other authorities using due process.

So it's truly bullshit, and you know it, and I know it.

Your continued enabling of these griefers is putting you on the suspects' list, too, Ariadne.

[Astolat Dufaux]

My god you're prolific -- do you ever leave your computer?

[Prokofy Neva]

Well, gosh, you're right here at the end of this long post, and posting obsessively at SLuniverse.com

The question might be directed at you!

[Ariadne Korda]

Under point 2:
"If personal data is held about you, you can be given a copy of the personal data held and the reasons for this."

If you care to look at your quoted part, note the bit about 'for visa or immigration'. It is not a certificate as such.

Not malice, strangely enough. Simply helpful information and NOT defending Tux. I thought you might be interesting in knowing that such a process does exist.

Many, many countries provide you with an extract from your 'legal record', usually to prove it is empty. I've had to do it for work, which is why I knew it exists.

Another example
http://www.unlock.org.uk/xoffenders.aspx?sid=67
And another
http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/reps/asia/vmys/ref_livfor/livmys/chcri.html

[Astolat Dufaux]

hahaha... touche!

I didn't actually read your entire post, my eyes started to glaze over. :P

In fact, I spend most of my day on the computer working on my SL business(es), plus I've got my browser window open on all kinds of sites, SLU being just one. :D

[Magnet Homewood]

A number of years ago, I wanted to live in a certain country, and they required that I present a document proving (to paraphrase) that the police weren't chasing me in Britain, so that I wasnt evading the law there to live in the new country. I can't remember how I went about getting it, but I have it still - from Scotland Yard itself! (the National Identification Service)

It cites Section 21 of the 1984 Data Protection Act - Subject Access, and basically informs me that I have the right to request all information held about me, by the police force where I live, and they have to give it to me when I ask.

It includes prosecution and conviction history (which I have none of!) and I assume other 'personal information', as the title of the record suggests. However, the document does state at the end that it is not a certificate of good character.

I have no idea whether this kind of document can still be obtained from police forces in Britain, I am just making the point that you could get a written record like this from them at one time.

Also, getting it cost me a good few pounds, as well as time, and then I had to get it translated too, for yet more money - I found out later the usual way British people sort this is to 'solemnly swear ... etc etc' in front of a British Embassy witness, and that would have been enough. Bastards!

[Ariadne Korda]

You still can, in this link I mentioned. Various types of document, in fact
http://www.unlock.org.uk/xoffenders.aspx?sid=67

In most of Europe (definitely France, Switzerland, Germany, Portugal) that I know of and I expect more, it is relatively simple to obtain an extract of your record. A lot of employers ask for it, and pay for it.

Once again, simply providing facts about Europe that Prokofy seems unaware of, and not "supporting griefers", which I don't.

[Prokofy Neva]

Ariadne and Magnet --

You're still not getting it or hearing it, and on Ariadne's part, it's due to being pernicious and harassing, and Magnet, I assume you're simply raising this to be helpful and on good faith, but it's not the point.

Getting your police record of past offenses -- showing whatever past crimes you may have committed -- or showing merely that there is an absence of such convictions for the purpose of getting a resident permit or visa or whatever, *is not the same thing as* getting a certificate of good behaviour that implies you were investigated of allegations (say, regarding Anonymous hacks) and found not guilty.

Number one, law-enforcers do not provide such documentation as we've explained over and over again and as Magnet has helpfully pointed out is even her own experience.

Number two, *it is not police forces who tell you that you are guilty or not guilty*. It's *judges*.

This point seems to be lost on quite a few people who have a very poor grasp of what the judiciary is, in Europe and the US. And in fact, I do know "simple facts" about Europe, dear, because they are similar to the "simple facts" of the US where you can do arrest checks in any state.

And yes, Ariadne, you are indeed aiding and abetting griefers. Tux is permabanned from SL for good reason. His claims that he didn't hack or track the JLU seem extremely weak given his zeal to distract from these accusations. He is part of the Patriotic Nigras and the Wrong Hands, both groups that mercilessly grief people in various ways, some literally by rezzing grief cubes and some by endlessly justifying and apologizing and distracting from real griefing inworld such as from his two easily-identified ugly little friends Fitty and Docking.

Tux has also made a series of nasty and creepy threats against me, which I've documented and continue to document and expose, and he is also griefing me inworld (while pretending that his threats, and these incidents of griefing immediately following them, are gosh, completely unrelated).

Then he's claimed that Scotland Yard has proclaimed that he is not guilty of involvement in Anonymous or LulzSec or hacking.

But again, police do not provide such statements for people to wave around on forums.

And it is judges and juries that find people "not guilty" and issue verdicts and documentation, not police. At least in democratic societies under the rule of law.

The police did not find sufficient evidence to make an arrest in his case. And I simply do not believe that they talked to him for three hour about the JLU's dbase (!) and then followed up even with an email saying in writing (!) that superheroes better not take the law into their own hands (!). That's all patently ridiculous.

That you'd buy all this nonsense although you formerly seemed fairly intelligent only speaks to the power of these grief cults to twist people's minds.

A complaint filed to the Metropolitan Police online report form should help clear this up, however and serve as a deterrent to this malignant individuals' continued threats.

[Prokofy Neva]

Again, look at Tux's fake claim:

They confirmed I am NOT under investigation. Although there has been allegations. They looked into these and found them to be false. Mostly to do with Anonymous."

Thus, two kinds of documents:

1. A record of past convictions or document showing absence of past convictions, which many people can get in many jurisdictions

2. A statement from the police that they have investigated you of an allegation and found that you are not guilty and the allegations are false -- this is preposterous, and no police station will issue such a thing. They will simply not pursue an allegation, or drop charges, or close the file, but they don't issue such exonerating statements.

If they do, I'm sure Tux won't have a problem getting the officer's name, badge number, title, location and enabling journalists to call and inquire about the matter.

[Amanda Dallin]

I can't imagine any policing organization giving a possible suspect information on an active case. In the US, the FBI is subject to Freedom of Information Act request but that does not compel them to furnish suspects with information on current cases. (suspects will be given such information after being charged with a crime.) I'm sure policing agencies in Europe have similar common sense protections for current investigations.

As far as SL is concerned, it is unbelievable that the FBI and Scotland Yard are spending time investigating griefing in SL. They might investigate RL issues where a subject is incidentally involved in SL.