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January 15, 2012

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Omg

Second Life would get taken down for all of the streaming music people use. Forget about who's uploading what for mesh. lol!

ichabod Antfarm

"You could not give a more convincing demonstration of why you're not qualified to comment."

Burnt any good books lately?

Prokofy Neva

thanks, ichabod.

The answer to my legitimate question and challenge to geeks to explain themselves isn't "you're stupid" because then my answer is "and assholes like you don't get to run my Internet or anything, and fuck you."

Indeed I do get to ask what the hell the difference is between encryption of DRM or content that they reject, and their other encryption that they are raising as so holy and vital for DNSSEX.

Indeed I do.

That's what normal people do in a democratic society -- they challenge those in power. The geeks and their tools are in power now and trying to overthrow Congress. So fuck, yeah, I get to ask these questions if we remain a democracy and a liberal one.

It doesn't matter if cryptographic signing and data shrouding "aren't the same thing". Again, duh, we get all that, having been in SL living in a goddamn computer server and its code all these years.

What matters is how geeks can justify their "can't be done" in one instance but not the other when the same PRINCIPLES and LOGIC remain as CONCEPTS even if this or that little nerdy thing is different about it.

What "prokofy said" wasn't a truth; I asked A QUESTION as you can see above, seeing some illogic and religious doctrines at work, not engineering -- that's a common problem with all the copyleftists.

So Rex is absolutely right about what makes these different things similar and provides a helpful commentary.

What Quanmer is so busy doing -- establishing that he's a superior asshole and that I'm ignorant -- isn't scientific and therefore not persuasive. It's just assholery.

It's so typical of the way technologists think of things with weeny little binary idiocy, and that's why they make poor conceptual thinkers and strategists and can't explain themselves. They need to be called up. You think you can encrypt one thing and not the other? Why? Who the hell are you? Explain yourselves.

As for Marx whose name describes him, the RIAA is acting in the interests of content owners and their clients with content, and that's ok. They get to do that. The Internet is not all yours. Paws off.


Marx Dudek

And not only that, but competing virtual worlds might make easy work of shutting Second Life down.

Ann Otoole InSL

The US Gov shut down megaupload.com today proving they do not need SOPA/PIPA at all and already have the power to shutter websites at will without trial. I know at least one SL creator that used megaupload.com to distribute legitimate content for SL thus proving the heavy ham hand of the US gov goes too far and must be forcibly constrained.

Prokofy Neva

Ann, that's great that they shut down a site devoted to piracy that commercially benefited from piracy. Your friend shouldn't select sites that are devoted to piracy that commercially benefit from piracy for her own works. That's all.

What needs to be forcibly restrained right now are Google and co.

What a joke

Do you have absolute proof that megaupload is "devoted to piracy" or that it "commercially benefits from piracy"?

No? Didn't think so Prokofy.

Don't spout off concerning that which you know nothing at all about.

Alyson Zhukovsky

TLDR.. Prok, protecting original content producers is always a valuable thing to do. The way the this law is worded will not achieve that objective and will only create more frivolous lawsuits that we the tax payers must pay for.

This I am sure would effect you. You're unable to think for yourself anyway and spill out whatever verbal diarrhoea you believe goes most against the grain. You plagiarise most of what you post without giving sources..

Just saying..

Ann Otoole InSL

More news: http://gizmodo.com/5877779/jailed-megaupload-employees-denied-bail

So why doesn't US Gov go after Pirate Bay. Like I said earlier there are cheaper and permanently effective solutions to lefty freaks that laugh at authority. The US needs to deal with these issues in a way that permanently eliminates the people that promote IP theft. Nobody would mourn them.

Now back to google and millions of take downs. Review the options available on youtube. I choose to use audioswap which means my videos have a link to buy the music from the IP owner and ads that pay the IP owners via ad views. It is really important to fully understand youtube's IP management model. However not all IP owners choose this option. Upload the IP of someone that bans it too many times and youtube deletes your account as required by DMCA law. Too bad LL doesn't obey the law this way.

Micha Sass

I think Ann has hit the nail on the head. Prokofy, your beef is with the potential revenue loss that is created by IP distribution on the net. YouTube has made a provision so that IP holders can actually make a revenue from having their IP included on the YouTube system. Megaupload was most likely wholesaling other peoples IP (along with the many legitimate up/downloads) with no provision for the IP holder to make any bread.

LL has an entirely different situation where IP is often owned by users of their system as opposed to a big media group. There is some small-scale IP issues (the take down of immitation 'Tazer' products for example) involving trademarks or virtual copies of RL products. Also there are the many unlicensed DJ's who are streaming music for a very small profit. LL could maybe tackle the two former issues by adding tools to SL in the way YouTube has added tools. This could allow a small revenue stream to go to the IP holders to keep them happy.

In-world copybotting is an eternal problem that neither DCMA or SOPA would attempt to tackle. Copybotted goods are originally made in SL, copied in SL and then distributed in SL. Copybotting is not a real world problem and will not be solved by real world laws.

If a rival VR world company wished to use SOPA to shut down SL they will focus on the unlicensed DJ's. SL could combat this by disabling the media stream URL.

Xaan Allen

Do you ever actually understand what you write about or do you pick out a few points and start another of your irrational pieces of crap.

I have read your blog once or twice a month for several years and have never commented until now.

Are you actually trying to achieve something meaningful with this blog or is it just so yu can launch attacks on issues you clearly do not understand or on people you dislike to the point of obsession.

In all the time I have read your blog you consistantly have been critical of Linden Labs. Why do you stay in SL when you consistantly complain about everything Linden Labs does.

The fact you stay in SL shows you love the drama and havoc you create and the attention it brings you as I do not believe you are silly enough to stay and run a business in a place you have complained about for years.

Gwyneth Llewelyn

I tried to post some comments here, but TypePad ate them :) So I decided to write a whole article instead: http://gwynethllewelyn.net/2012/01/23/sopapipa-revisited/

I don't intend any "personal attack" with that; I've just got a different interpretation of the bill, and propose a few suggestions on how to combat piracy and make sure content creators get paid for their work.

Prokofy Neva

Gwyn,

There isn't anything "technologically" wrong. If you write a really long post, it sometimes goes in the spam file. I don't always have time or remember to fish it out.

It doesn't matter whether the case is criminal or civil, it's merely a matter of degree of severity. So your Fisking on that point is odd. $1000 is mentioned in the bill in its last version.

Providers should comply with their own TOS and remove material ANYWAY. If they become more keen on this, good! They all are too lax. They should follow their own TOS. Blaming SOPA for their need to police their own ranks is ridiculous. They have their own TOS!

I will try to read your long post later -- in general you should write your own blog instead of doing 3 long comments here.

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