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January 23, 2013

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Cetile Resident

lolwhat. I didn't see it in-world; I guess they took it down already.

RedMokum Bravin

On the 23rd I had already made 3 of the 4 sides transparent, Cetile.
Now I have removed the objects from all the 7 sims, since I've made my statement. No need to keep spoiling other residents' view. After all I'm a member of Arbor who have always fought against extortionists, over-advertising and slumlords.

Cetile Resident

It seems to be the griefers that make the place a slum, otherwise Ravenglass communities make for very nice neighbourhoods.

On the one hand, I quite enjoyed the low price and high prim count of the Ravenglass parcel I rented while I did - in fact, the only reason I left was I was going premium, and with my 512sqm/117 prims on crowded, disorganized mainland (admittedly the breedables I keep there likely only make the place look worse), I miss the old waterfront place with the the road nearby and friendly neighbour who moved in just before I left.

If you want people to stop renting parcels like that, then I suggest the route of figuring out a way to offer a better price-to-prim ratio on equal or better quality land.

Given, I would guess that most people probably aren't willing to put the kind of money such an endeavour would take into Second Life.

On the other, and this part I will address to Miss Prokofy, these folk feed off of the attention you give them. It's the drama they like, and I would guess they probably get a little giddy and show it off to their buddies when you mention their name in a post. I used to be a volunteer moderator in an MMORPG when I was younger and learned first-hand that this is generally how they operate.

I've also noticed that people claim the long ban lists on your land cause lag - perhaps it'd be rather labor-intensive if it isn't already automatically done, I don't know how such things work, but a compromise might be made by finding out who's been banned by LL and removing those names from the list. If they grief you, they probably grief others, so there are probably a lot you could knock off the list for those.

Prokofy Neva

Cetile, no. I totally disagree. I don't care about theories of "feeding" and theories of "they will stop if you don't give them attention". I have vast, vast experience with them.

Not publicizing them doesn't do a damn thing. It only emboldens them. It enables them to do this to more people. By publicizing them, whatever temporary worsening of the situation you get, you eventually get rid of them and you break through their lie that they are good people, which they tell everywhere as part of their griefing shtick.

I don't care if somebody gets some high by being named in my blog. Not all of them are named but if it reaches a threshold, I publicize, publicize, publicize. It's the only thing that works. I don't believe in building a security state; I believe in publicity and naming and shaming. It's a different theory. You're welcome to do it your way. When you have a persistent "psychological griefer" with multiple alts like the Malta Graphics gang, only publicity works.

This idea that lag is called by ban lists has no basis in reality. There's no physical reason for it.

The long ban lists on my land are injected there automatically by a griefing script that was used for a long time by these Wrong Hand griefers to ban us from our own land. Huge nuisance. It is filled with actual tenants and non-existent. I don't have the time to fuss with it. Sometimes the sim is reset and it seems to all go away. I'm not going to bother with it. I am not going to sit in laggy SL and try to figure out who is in the list by loading the slow and laggy search and then struggle with land menus on hundreds of parcels. No way! There is no reason to assume the lag issue over that.

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